ron fournier calling in his own way the sensational title of his team is "president obama needs to fires himself. not literally, of course but practically he needs to shake up his team. you have said wns these problems are fixed there will be staffing changes. do you still think that's true and do you think it's as dramatic as fournier suggests. >> i don't think it should be as dramatic as the president firing himself. >> that would be unconstitutional. >> it will be inexplicable if somebody involved in the creation of the website doesn't get fired or a group of people don't get fired. again, if you look at that "new york times" story from this weekend, when folks at hhs are looking at the white house and dennis mcdonaccdonough's white calendar and laughing, micro managing, lets be clear, one thing the white house didn't do on this, they didn't micro manage beaurocracy enough. if we get through the end of the enrollment period -- i said this first on your show, alex. we should get through the fixing of this before we clean house. i think it will be inexplicable if we get sometime in the